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	<title>Comments on: Are Copywriters an Endangered Species?</title>
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		<title>By: Lorraine Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, sorry, that last comment wasn&#039;t from &quot;Anonymous.&quot; It was from me, Lorraine. I hastily posted before logging into admin. Need more coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, sorry, that last comment wasn&#8217;t from &#8220;Anonymous.&#8221; It was from me, Lorraine. I hastily posted before logging into admin. Need more coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://marketcopywriterblog.com/2010/01/23/are-copywriters-an-endangered-species/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CopyStratic  Though it comes with freelance territory, losing a bid is never easy, especially in these economic times.

I occasionally lower fees for non-profit organizations--I&#039;ve even done pro-bono work for causes I believe in. I&#039;ve also adjusted day rates down when I&#039;m working on a really big project that will take months.

And when you&#039;re starting out, you can&#039;t expect to command high pricing.

But adjusting fees to please low-budget clients is not a sustainable way to earn a living. It takes time away from clients who &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; afford your pricing--or from self-marketing that lets you find better clients.

Ask yourself if you really want to work for someone who can&#039;t afford $800 for copy that enhances image, builds business and returns investment. 

By the way, his referrals sound like hooey--a classic passive aggressive attempt to guilt-trip you because he can&#039;t or won&#039;t pay a reasonable price for your work.

For a lighter look at this kind of classic vendor manipulation, check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CopyStratic  Though it comes with freelance territory, losing a bid is never easy, especially in these economic times.</p>
<p>I occasionally lower fees for non-profit organizations&#8211;I&#8217;ve even done pro-bono work for causes I believe in. I&#8217;ve also adjusted day rates down when I&#8217;m working on a really big project that will take months.</p>
<p>And when you&#8217;re starting out, you can&#8217;t expect to command high pricing.</p>
<p>But adjusting fees to please low-budget clients is not a sustainable way to earn a living. It takes time away from clients who <em>can</em> afford your pricing&#8211;or from self-marketing that lets you find better clients.</p>
<p>Ask yourself if you really want to work for someone who can&#8217;t afford $800 for copy that enhances image, builds business and returns investment. </p>
<p>By the way, his referrals sound like hooey&#8211;a classic passive aggressive attempt to guilt-trip you because he can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t pay a reasonable price for your work.</p>
<p>For a lighter look at this kind of classic vendor manipulation, check out this video:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY</a></p>
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		<title>By: CopyStratic</title>
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		<dc:creator>CopyStratic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Followed your lead on point #1 and got burned. Rates should be based on sliding scale, not across the board. Fact: a fitness gym chain can shoulder a $1,000 bill to improve their web content; a personal trainer or other micropeneur cannot. Still reeling over the loss of this potential client. Handed him a $800 estimate and he disappeared. What really stinks is that he told me he had like 70 clients, possibly other small business owners, i.e., referrals. Lesson learned; hard one at that.

Daniel B.
CopyStratic.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Followed your lead on point #1 and got burned. Rates should be based on sliding scale, not across the board. Fact: a fitness gym chain can shoulder a $1,000 bill to improve their web content; a personal trainer or other micropeneur cannot. Still reeling over the loss of this potential client. Handed him a $800 estimate and he disappeared. What really stinks is that he told me he had like 70 clients, possibly other small business owners, i.e., referrals. Lesson learned; hard one at that.</p>
<p>Daniel B.<br />
CopyStratic.com</p>
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		<title>By: professional copywriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>professional copywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sean, creating and maintaining a blog is beneficial to clients and for yourself. Keeping yourself writing as well is nothing but a good thing. 

No matter what you do...........
Keep reading and Keep Writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sean, creating and maintaining a blog is beneficial to clients and for yourself. Keeping yourself writing as well is nothing but a good thing. </p>
<p>No matter what you do&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Keep reading and Keep Writing!</p>
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		<title>By: TC/Copywriter Underground</title>
		<link>http://marketcopywriterblog.com/2010/01/23/are-copywriters-an-endangered-species/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>TC/Copywriter Underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention of the Copywriter Underground. 

I would like to make on addition to your reference to the Value Added Copywriter; Providing value beyond the SEO attributes of your copy is a powerful incentive to keep clients, but you don&#039;t necessarily want to do that forever for free. 

At some point, you need to figure out how to get paid for all your expertise. Usually it&#039;s as simple as pitching the client a proposal allocating a few consulting dollars your way.

In any case, I think your post is largely spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention of the Copywriter Underground. </p>
<p>I would like to make on addition to your reference to the Value Added Copywriter; Providing value beyond the SEO attributes of your copy is a powerful incentive to keep clients, but you don&#8217;t necessarily want to do that forever for free. </p>
<p>At some point, you need to figure out how to get paid for all your expertise. Usually it&#8217;s as simple as pitching the client a proposal allocating a few consulting dollars your way.</p>
<p>In any case, I think your post is largely spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Lyden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Lyden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorraine:

I can relate to your point #5. It took me a while to justify the (non billable) time to do a blog and essentially give away researched copy I&#039;m paid by magazines to produce. I now view the blog as an opportunity to hold myself accountable to organize my experiences into a systematic approach to our craft -- and hopefully help (and learn from) other writers and marketers, as well . . . You&#039;re so right about how we must create value and differentiate ourselves as advisors vs content mills. An idea for a follow up post: 7 (or whatever #) Keys to Boost Your Value to Clients and Attract Higher Fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorraine:</p>
<p>I can relate to your point #5. It took me a while to justify the (non billable) time to do a blog and essentially give away researched copy I&#8217;m paid by magazines to produce. I now view the blog as an opportunity to hold myself accountable to organize my experiences into a systematic approach to our craft &#8212; and hopefully help (and learn from) other writers and marketers, as well . . . You&#8217;re so right about how we must create value and differentiate ourselves as advisors vs content mills. An idea for a follow up post: 7 (or whatever #) Keys to Boost Your Value to Clients and Attract Higher Fees.</p>
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